I found this little tidbit today when reading some email lists.

This isn’t an answer to the twenty hour question but the question
reminded me of a bit from “Learning all the Time” by John Holt.

“At the Ny Lille Skole (New Little School), near Copenhagen, which I
described in “Instead of Education,” there is no formal reading
program at all – no classes, no reading groups, no instruction, no
testing, nothing. Children (like adults) read if , and when, and
what, and with whom, and as much as they want to. But all the
children know – it is not announced, just on of those things you find
out by being in the school – that anytime they want, they can go to
Rasmus Hansen, a tall, deep voiced, slow speaking teacher (for many
years the head teacher of the school), and say, “Will you read with
me?” and he will say, “Yes.” The child picks something to read, goes
with Rasmus to a little nook, not a locked room but a cozy and
private place, sits down right beside him and begins to read aloud.
Rasmus does almost nothing. From time to time he says softly, “Ja,
Ja,” implying “That’s right, keep going.” Unless he suspects the
child may be getting into a panic, he almost never points out or
corrects a mistake. If asked for a word, he simply says what it is.
After a while, usually about twenty minutes or so, the child stops,
closes the book, gets up, and goes off to do something else. One
could hardly call this teaching. Yet, as it happens, Rasmus was
trained as a reading teacher. He told me that it had taken him many
years to stop doing – one at a time – all the many things he had been
trained to do, and finally to learn that this tiny amount of moral
support and help was all that children needed of him, and that
anything more was of no help at all.

I asked Rasmus how much of this “help” children seemed to need before
they felt ready to explore reading on their own. He said that from
his records of theses reading sessions he had found that the longest
amount of time any of the children spent reading with him was about
thirty hours, usually in sessions of twenty minutes to a half hour,
spread out over a few months. But, he added, many children spent
much less time than that with him, and many others never read with
him at all. I should add that almost all of the children went from
the Ny Lille Skole to the gymnasium, a high school far more difficult
and demanding than all but a few secondary schools in the U.S.
However and whenever the children many have learned it, they were all
good readers.

Thirty hours. I had met that figure before. Years earlier, I had
served for a few weeks as a consultant to a reading program for adult
illiterates in Cleveland, Ohio. Most of the students were from
thirty to fifty years old: most were poor; about half were black,
half white; most had moved to Cleveland either from Appalachia or the
deep South. There were three sessions, each lasting three weeks. In
each session, students went to classes for two hours a night five
nights a week: that is thirty hours. To teach the teachers used
Caleb Gattegno’s “Words in Color,” a very ingenious (I now think, too
ingenious) method. Used well, it can be very effective. But it
makes great demands on the teachers. That is, it can be used very
badly. Few of the volunteer teachers in the program had previously
used “Words in Color”; they themselves had been trained in an
intensive course just before they began to teach the illiterates. I
observed a good many of the teachers in one of the three sessions.
Most of them used the method fairly well, one or two very well, a few
very badly. The students and classes themselves varied; some classes
were much more supportive, some students much more bold and vigorous
than others. I don’t know what, if any, follow-up studies of the
program were ever made, or what the students did with their newfound
skill. My strong impression at the end of my three weeks was that
most of the students in the classes I had observed had learned enough
about reading in their thirty hours so that they could go on
exploring and reading, and could become as skillful as they wanted to
be on their own.”

And this other bit:

“Some years later I first heard of Paulo Freire, a Brazilian educator
and reformer, who, until the army ran him out of the country, had
been teaching reading and writing to illiterate adult peasants in the
very poorest villages. One might say that his method was a kind of
politically radical, grown-up version of the method Sylvia Ashton-
Warner described in her books “Spinster and Teacher.” That is, he
began by talking with these peasants about the conditions and
problems of their lives (this was what the army didn’t like), and
then showed them how to write and read the words that came up most in
their talk. He too found that it took only about thirty hours of
teaching before these wretchedly poor and previously demoralized
peasants were able to go on exploring reading on there own. Thirty
hours. One school week. That is the true size of the task
.”

Holt doesn’t say that after thirty hours everyone knew how to read,
he says they had enough information to explore reading on their own.



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We’ve been getting into a routine here of early mornings and early evenings and with Andrew working out of town for the last 5 weeks (though he’s done now) it was sort of complicated and honestly, tiring for some of the kids. But he’s back home now, and done with the job out of town, so I don’t have to take four kids with me anytime we have to go out, which is huge.

There hasn’t been anything too exciting going on here at the moment other than Sophia starting at preschool earlier this month. The other kids are sort of having an off month between the 5 weeks of summer camp, the lake and starting their new programs at the beginning of October. It’s sort of their down time I guess. Which is great, because they’re really excited to start their new stuff (for the most part; Brandon’s a little apprehensive about one programs he’s starting, but in that excited “can’t wait to see what it’s like” way) but they did need a break from the routine of 5 days a week all day activity.

I’m personally loving the weather. It’s around 20C (70F) during the day (though it’s actually 81F right now at 5pm!) and close to freezing at night, so if you DO get hot during the day, it doesn’t last overnight, and it’s cool enough to have the doors and windows open and the leaves are starting to change (quite rapidly actually). I’m waiting for that “FALL” feel, even though it is technically fall…I’m just not there mentally yet. It’s been such a weird year weather wise, maybe I’m just behind in the mental preparedness or something. The weather’s right, but it doesn’t seem like fall yet. Soon I hope :)

I’ve found myself enthralled by a book and our new printer. Not together or anything, but I’ve been reading “The God Delusion” by Richard Dawkins and LOVING IT (though I’ve listened to some of it on mp3 already and I’ve watched the documentary that sort of inspired it) but don’t have anyone other than Andrew to discuss it with. Luckily for me, he’s listened to the mp3 too, so we can talk about it. We never ever talk about books, since he doesn’t read LOL He can read, but if it comes in book form, forget it. And, we finally, after probably 10 years, bought a printer. Our entire house is so geeky, even the KIDS were excited for it. It copies and scans so I’ve been going nuts with the scanner…scanning in baby pictures and pictures from way back and so on…the kids…the kids LOVE the copier. The first night with it they were running around the house trying to find more to copy!!LOL We’re such geeks. They come by it honestly though, no?

Me as a baby!!!

Azura at age 3

Goofy, little teeny kids

My favourite picture of Max



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I fully admit that I know that for our kids, our lifestyle and parenting philosophies are best, though sometimes I have to re-remember that. But this week I’ve been constantly reminded why I love unschooling so much. This week marked the first week back to school for the school kids. And you could really tell it at the grocery store, the fair and more. Grumpy kids, irritated parents, tired families. I admit that getting up for the 6 weeks the kids were at day camp sucked, and doing it starting tomorrow for Sophia’s preschool will suck, but our kids had the choice to go or not go, and that was key. Yeah, we might be grumpy too and irritated, but it’s usually our own faults.

This week, while kids were adjusting to new school routines, my kids were spending the weekend at the lake with their grandparents (two of them), going to the fair, playing outside, watching movies with us, playing games, and a million other things in there. We were the only family in Burger King having breakfast on Tuesday, the only family eating supper there that night at 9:30 (okay, eating there twice in one day is really rare for us…LOL), the only family at the store on Wednesday morning. We’re usually one of the only families out during the week which means for the most part we can avoid all the places that get super busy on the weekends, because we can go anytime.

I love the freedom. That we don’t have to plan around anything. Even Sophia’s preschool we can take her out for the day, do stuff while she’s there, etc…and it’s her choice to go or stay. I don’t have to plan “we have to be back home Sunday night” unless Sophia’s going to preschool in the morning, or the kids have appointments they can’t break and so on. We’ve been busy but nothing’s changed from the ebb and flow of our lives any other month. We just keep on keeping on.

And I love it.



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Same as the last three years, we went to the Fair (FREX) This year though, it was damn cold!! And windy!! Though we all had to wear sweaters/jackets and pants instead of shorts and teeshirts, it was fun!!!! Really fun since we didn’t get hot. And also because of the weather (and the fact we actually went this year on the first day of school, not the third) the fair never really got busy. Even though there were a lot of kids around (mostly teens), the rides weren’t being used. One of the roller coaster trips Sophia took was over 20 minutes long :) And like the past 3 years….we took a million and one pictures…okay, more like 80 plus some video, but who’s counting. By mid-afternoon though, the picture taking stopped. We stayed past dark, and I’m kicking myself for not taking some of the after-dark pictures. It was pretty :) So, here’s some pictures from our fair outing. I was LOVING the petting zoo. Screw the rides, the animals had me. My MIL joked that I was craving life on a farm, which isn’t too far off the mark actually!!! Brandon was obsessed with the different birds and poultry there were, and the Emu stole Azura’s pinwheel right out of her pocket!!! Way cool!!!

So, without further ado :) Pictures and like always click on the thumbnail to view larger picture and on the right top to go forward (left top to go back)…… (Link to many many more: Fair Photos )

Sophia’s Pony Ride

Max’s Pony Ride

Baby Wild Boars

The Creepy Emu

The Tornado

The Matterhorn

Tip-Up Cups

Tilt-A-Whirl

Crazy Bus

The Scrambler



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